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/u/riccardoforina on Understanding Destiny networking & why packet loss, not...

This. Some months ago I suggested a tweak that might help limiting this problem for owners of an ADSL connection with low upload capability.

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/u/KaiserDusseldorf on Understanding Destiny networking & why packet loss,...

You pretty much have to use UDP for packet transmission. You don't particularly want all the features of TCP, and so, according to the article below, some developers tend to use UDP and then cherry...

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/u/ookashi on Understanding Destiny networking & why packet loss, not latency...

I've been looking for source for that as well. Seems like a particularly significant thing to state as a fact without sourcing or proof.

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/u/rybob42 on Understanding Destiny networking & why packet loss, not latency...

Yes please, can you provide your sources? I'm especially curious about a source/proof for the 10 Hz update rate.

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/u/xarius_su on Understanding Destiny networking & why packet loss, not...

Could you please link to some official sources to corroborate these claims? I'm not trying to suggest that what you've said is incorrect, and in fact most of what you've said is likely true given the...

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/u/buko_PS4 on Understanding Destiny networking & why packet loss, not...

Not just that but the console wouldn't need to maintain as many active connections so there is less chance for packet loss.

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/u/learath on Understanding Destiny networking & why packet loss, not latency...

And also eliminate most forms of cheating - ddos the server? Well... you aren't helping anyone. Lag switching? Well.. that's going to suck cause you won't hit shit. Packet loss? Sucks to be you, fix...

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/u/Gypsy_Mind_Trik on Understanding Destiny networking & why packet loss, not...

Are you saying that if Destiny were on dedicated servers all or most of these problems would fix themselves?

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/u/Kovitlac on Understanding Destiny networking & why packet loss, not...

Thank you for the excellent write-up! My usual understanding of what's going on in the game amounts to, "I shoot bad guy - why he no die?? GAME CHEATS!!", so the explanation is very appreciated.

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/u/KYG-34 on Understanding Destiny networking & why packet loss, not latency...

More like, have Bungie block people with shitty connections.

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/u/BeaversBumhole on Understanding Destiny networking & why packet loss, not...

Simple fix on our end. Block everyone with a shitty connection.

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/u/zarquon25 on Understanding Destiny networking & why packet loss, not...

This is honestly my biggest worry about Destiny 2. I hope Bungie will make some reassuring noises about networking before the game launches.

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/u/ThePedanticGent on Understanding Destiny networking & why packet loss, not...

The distance from the dedicated server can be a problem for users in geographically isolated areas. Australian players will go from playing other Australians to playing Americans on the West Coast...

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/u/trollbocop on Understanding Destiny networking & why packet loss, not...

That would be cost saving.

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/u/Eicr-5 on Understanding Destiny networking & why packet loss, not latency...

Cost saving isn't how I would put it. It's like saying taking the bus to visit your parents 3 states away is a cost saving measure vs taking a private jet.

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/u/Toffe3m4n on Understanding Destiny networking & why packet loss, not...

Pure cost saving.

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/u/johnyh on Understanding Destiny networking & why packet loss, not latency...

Question : Is there an advantage to using peer to peer as opposed dedicated servers? Or is it just a cost saving?

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/u/SP1D3R-ZA on Understanding Destiny networking & why packet loss, not...

Funny that you should say that. I live in South Africa and play on a 10bms/1mbs connection (internet is ridiculously priced here). Whenever I play against overseas folks (especially guys from UAE) and...

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/u/MithIllogical on Understanding Destiny networking & why packet loss, not...

This is REALLY good stuff, and I hope it goes straight to the top. This is what we need to communicate to Bungie, more than anything else, for Destiny 2. That we understand the issues, and we expect...

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/u/gagsy92 on Understanding Destiny networking & why packet loss, not latency...

Same here, I think if the crucible wasn't riddled with this packet loss situation, it could be a really fun thing to get into. My friend who is pretty die hard Destiny took a break from it to play...

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